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in reply to t0mri

LibreOffice unless MS Office comparability is the most important thing. Then maybe try ONLYOFFICE.
in reply to t0mri

Is it possible to download just the word processor (libreoffice's) and nothing else?
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in reply to CaptObvious

AFAIK, you need to download the entire installer, but can select which components you'd like to have installed during the setup process.
in reply to ryannathans

Sorry. Im asking about word processor from libreoffice
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in reply to t0mri

In Flatpak no, just the bundle for whatever reason. Pretty annoying, as I will never, never use Base of Draw.
in reply to Pantherina

Dont use flat pak anyway, unless you want to get malicious packages
in reply to delirious_owl

There are no viruses on Flathub. That is the Snap store. Those are two entirely different things.
in reply to t0mri

Both are good, but different focuses. OnlyOffice has fewer features, but extremely good MS Office cross-compatibility.

Libre Office has more features, but can run into compatibility issues when going back and forth between MS Office.

That being said, for the average user's needs, both are perfectly fine.

OnlyOffice is also able to be used in a cloud framework similar to Google docs, but to my knowledge Libre Office cannot do that.

in reply to Lettuce eat lettuce

I think Collabora Online
uses or is built on LibreOffice. It's a subscription service but you can host it yourself for free (I think for personal use). I've not tried either. I'm pretty sure the Collabora team are big code contributors to LibreOffice. If I got anything wrong I hope someone will correct me.
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in reply to t0mri

Unfortunately, I don't think either is particularly great. LibreOffice looks horrendous, performs at or below average, and does not have fabulous compatibility with Microsoft Office formats. On the other hand, ONLYOFFICE has better compatibility but feels cheap and pushes web services.

If this is for personal use, I would go with LibreOffice. If you need to share documents with others using a common format, go with ONLYOFFICE.

in reply to Irdial

I'm not sure if this is accurate OpenOffice appears to be abandonware with development stopped in 2011 while LibreOffice is the fork and still being developed.

edit...ah Oracle OpenOffice vs Apache OpenOffice

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in reply to BCsven

OpenOffice and OnlyOffice are two different things. We were talking about the latter.
in reply to BCsven

OpenOffice is not a thing anymore, stop keeping it in your brains XD
in reply to Irdial

Dont agree on looks etc, but yes Onlyoffice feels like that and I would prefer Libreoffice+Web integration too.
in reply to Irdial

LibreOffice literally looks exactly like MS Office in my computer, what are you talking about? It does take a little bit of configuration, but nothing you can't find with a quick search
in reply to T (they/she)

They are probably using the default installed theme, which doesn't have scalable icons so everything is horribly pixelated. Not sure why it's still the default, but as you said it's pretty easy to change.
in reply to T (they/she)

Could you share how you did that?

I'm recommending Libreoffice to others n the UI difference seems to be the main thing that they notice.

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in reply to T (they/she)

Yeah, I will admit that it looks much better on Linux than macOS. My other qualm is that it eats up my laptop battery, while Pages and Word use considerably less power
in reply to t0mri

Try both out as flatpaks if you're on Linux and keep the one you like as I did :). I think both flatpaks come with the full suite.

I ended up sticking with OnlyOffice and feel it will probably work better for most people doing things like writing documents and spreadsheets with various formatting, tables, charts, formulas and equations.

I am mainly a Google docs user (and in the past MS office) as most people are and the OnlyOffice UI and workflow is much more comfortable if you're coming from these products. Things work and look the way you would expect. LibreOffice UI feels very clunky and dated (even after trying different layouts). For example, charts look really bad by default in LibreOffice. OnlyOffice seems to work pretty much just as well as gDocs/MS office so far in my limited experience for most scenarios.

As part of my effort to reduce reliance on gDocs I am planning on setting up a self hosted Nextcloud office instance and it is based on OnlyOffice so it is more motivation for me to stick with it!

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in reply to t0mri

I use OnlyOffice and enjoy it. I do notice some fancy features missing but as I'm not a power user it doesn't bother me. I've opened OnlyOffice docx files in MS Office and vice versa many times with no issues ever. I've also installed MS fonts on my Linux distro and they work in OnlyOffice. I don't notice it pushing online features like somebody else said
in reply to t0mri

I use Libre Office. I have zero need if back and forth with enshitified MS Office.
in reply to t0mri

I had issues with Onlyoffice taking ages to load documents with lots of pages while Libreoffice did it instantly as expected. So back to Libreoffice for me.
in reply to t0mri

https://mangakakalot.com/chapter/ep919152/chapter_13
in reply to t0mri

LibreOffice should receive more updates than ~~OnlyOffice~~ OpenOffice.
I switched my uncle from ~~OnlyOffice~~ OpenOffice to LibreOffice (for work) and he never complained.

Edit: I've confused OnlyOffice with OpenOffice.

Anyway, I have both LibreOffice and OnlyOffice. I always use LibreOffice but for one file (yes it is an excel spreadsheet) I need to use OnlyOffice 'cause Libre can't open it.

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in reply to MrSoup

You're sure you're talking about OnlyOffice, and not OpenOffice. OpenOffice and LibreOffice are related. OnlyOffice is not.
in reply to ptman

Ops, you're right. Sorry, I've answered on phone while on movement.
in reply to t0mri

I have both. and i use both in different situations. depends on the specific document.
in reply to t0mri

I've been using LibreOffice for a number of years without issue. Literally takes care of all my word processing and spreadsheet needs. I don't miss MS Office at all, which I use daily at work.
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in reply to delirious_owl

Because most employees can't just install random software on their machines and because compatibility between Libre Office and Microsoft Office is nowhere near perfect. You don't want to send your boss a file that ends up looking mangled on their screen.
in reply to DdCno1

Send them a PDF... unless explicitly required otherwise.
in reply to delirious_owl

Company computing assets are managed. One normally doesn't get to override IT policy without business justification.
in reply to ⓝⓞ🅞🅝🅔

Its not hard to justify giving everyone free cross-platform office suite at work lol
in reply to delirious_owl

It is when your business relies on Microsoft services which are inherently incompatible with LO
in reply to ElectricMachman

That's a huge bill for a business, and businesses are always looking to cut expenses. Again, its an easy sell
in reply to delirious_owl

What happens when you need to collaborate with other businesses who use O365? The business would also have to spend time updating any legacy documents, templates, spreadsheets and so on. Then you have the IT teams, who will need extensive training so that they can field the inevitable flurry of support tickets and calls. And that's not getting into the support side of things - who do I go to if something breaks in LibreOffice?

I am an advocate for OSS, but there is a bigger picture here, and unfortunately it's not always as simple as just switching over. I wish it was, believe me!

in reply to ElectricMachman

Tell the other business to use LO. Shouldn't be an issue because its free and runs on every platform.
in reply to delirious_owl

Y'know, this conversation doesn't seem to be going anywhere, so I will leave it here: if it's such an easy sell, every business in the world would have done it by now.
in reply to ElectricMachman

It became the default in every business I ever worked at. If that's not the case where you are, perhaps you should look into a mirror and ask why?
in reply to delirious_owl

If that's your view of it, then you truly do not understand how businesses operate (especially larger companies). "Hey this is free, let's switch to this!" isn't a pitch. There are so many factors to consider: service, support, contracts, deployment, on and on and on. It would be great if every business adopted OSS, but they're not going to. And that's not a failure of one employee to convince a Fortune 500 company, for example, that LO would be a cost-saving measure.
in reply to davehtaylor

Call Microsoft about a bug and tell me how well their support works for you. Theres zero benefits to going with MS and a thousand for going with libre
in reply to delirious_owl

The point is that those "thousand" benefits for LO do not matter. That's simply not how businesses run. It would be great if it were, but it isn't. And your experience as an individual user with MS support is completely irrelevant with regard to business support.
in reply to delirious_owl

I reported a SharePoint bug to Microsoft yesterday afternoon, and it was fixed by the time I logged in this morning.
in reply to delirious_owl

Microsoft has some of the best technical support I've ever dealt with TBH. Meanwhile with LibreOffice your technical support is mostly forum diving yourself. If you have a big, competent, it department, maybe that's a feasible thing, but I've never worked anywhere with that kind of capacity
in reply to The Cuuuuube

No, you can pay for support if you want. And you'll have transparent ticketing systems
in reply to delirious_owl

Call Microsoft about a bug and tell me how well their support works for you.


Pretty well, actually.

in reply to delirious_owl

Not when you're already on an annual contract with Microsoft and the majority of your company's employees are nontechnical
in reply to The Cuuuuube

Yes. We're talking about Libre Office here. Its a very mature and accessible app. Not something that requires technical knowledge.

And, yes, if you're on an annual contract then its even easier to convince management to cancel it for all users by default (with some exceptions as needed). Lots of money to be saved.

in reply to t0mri

LibreOffice for local files, OnlyOffice for cloud
in reply to t0mri

Why not both?

I use onlyoffice with nextcloud (at the time nextcloud docs + collabora was alpha level software that crashed the server) or when I need better Ms office compatibility

And then i use LibreOffice when I need better implemented features like CSV import or print dialog