Ubuntu Flavors Will Stop Using Flatpak
In a surprise move, Ubuntu developers have agreed to stop shipping Flatpak, preinstalled Flatpak apps, and any plugins needed to install Flatpak apps through a GUI software tool in the default package set across all eight of Ubuntu’s official flavors, as of the upcoming Ubuntu 23.04 release.
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in reply to federico3 • • •You misunderstand problem, that Flatpak is solving. Yeah, it's not ideal way to distribute OSS software, if it already exists in distro's repositories. But many distros has small repository with outdated software. But FP is great to run proprietary software, as it is able to confine it into sandbox. And untrusted code won't be able to access your home dir!
Some benefits can be for OSS software too, as some security bugs can be unintentionally introduced, or perhaps someone would intentionally introduce malicious code to codebase, and it would bypass code review. But mostly for Browsers, which might have remote code execution bugs.
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in reply to federico3 • • •Similar thing to what happens on mobile platforms, like Android and UWP(bruh). So this is actually progress to better and safer desktop. Not perfect yet.
Most flatpaks don't require access to root or home fs, so host files are shielded. Only way to access fs is using file access dialogs and Drag'n'Drop(which is broken currntly)
Unfortunately this is true. But you can check defined permissions before installing app. And user would be notified it application after update requires more permissions.
But I guess flathub maintainers won't check/review packages, so not ideal.
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in reply to federico3 • • •I'd rather have a maintainer spend time on actually maintaining software instead of packaging it. They can package as AppImage, tarball and Flatpak and I'm happy. You don't have to use Flatpak, you know? Linux is about choice. I have never used any software which was available exclusively as Flatpak.
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in reply to federico3 • • •You're obviously correct that the people maintaining packages in distributions don't have to be, and often are not, the same people who maintain the packaging scripts in upstream repositories.
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IMO Canonical wants to make snap like google play, where people sell stuff and they take a 20-30 percent commission
Various points around snap monetization
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in reply to winnie • • •The user experience will be worse, because they can't use Flatpaks without jumping through extra hoops.
So, I guess, a "Ubuntu experience" is a bad experience. Not going to argue with that.
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Unknown parent • • •It shouldn't be, though.
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It shouldn't matter. Mastodon users should get notified when you reply to their post even though they aren't tagged in it.
At least that's the case for me on Friendica but I remember the same behaviour from back when I used Mastodon.
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